Liquor License Lockdown in the Royal

October 26, 2009
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Q: What’s scarier than Halloween?

A: The prospect of no new bars, restaurants, bowling alleys, or hotels in Royal Oak for another two years.

This Nov. 3, there will be a surprising option on your voting ballots–a two year moratorium on all new liquor licenses in Royal Oak. How did this happen? Well, Royal Oak’s city council deadlocked on whether to allow an Emagine theatre complex, featuring ten movie screens, sixteen bowling lanes, and a VIP bar open until 2am.  Also a Gus-O’Connor type place and a Bar Louie were in the works. Well, okay. Can’t say you didn’t see that one coming.

According to the blog Protect Royal Oak, which supports the moratorium, the Emagine complex alone would require 972 parking spots alone in the Main North area, by the Main Art Theatre.  Nevertheless, RO’s commission approved the license transfer from Berkley on Sept. 14, according to the Detroit News. Emboldened by the threat of a “mega-entertainment center” on Main (and with the supposed help of some pleading waitresses at Mr. B’s), opponents got enough signatures to put the question of the ban on this year’s ballot. These supporters managed to transform the issue from a “Bar vs. No Bar” debate–their blog boasts countless references to their stand against “big box development.”  According to city commissioner Chuck Samchena, public safety is another main issue:

City Commissioner Chuck Semchena said anemic staffing levels in the Royal Oak Police Department have meant reduced manpower across town. The department has gone from 104 sworn officers to 80 in the last five years.

“It’s pretty well known that some types of saloons create a lot of policing, that manpower is devoted to them. The fear is we will be short of officers in the neighborhoods,” said Semchena, a former city attorney.

The article didn’t ponder whether 78,000 square foot development like Emagine could create jobs and add to the city’s tax base (thus creating a few new roles on the R.O. Five-Oh).  It’s opinion time.  This ban is a bad idea.  It’s bad because it doesn’t just punish giant corporate developers.  It means nobody can open a bar, restaurant, or entertainment attraction in the city–not your friend the young chef, not the older couple with plans for an Italian joint, and certainly not the destination hotel City Council dreams of installing downtown. In theory, it’s much like this winning law that helps keep renegade day care centers off the streets.

Opponents of the moratorium have created a great new website called Friends of Downtown Royal Oak. They have some interesting statistics to add to the debate: for example, crime in 2008 was down 41 percent in Royal Oak.  (So much for all those saloons.) There’s also this gem of a slideshow, which alleges that, in the hopes of stifling competition, several Royal Oak bar owners supporting the ban donated $5,300 to several members of city council.  What’s more damning?  Those bar owners aren’t even Royal Oak residents.

I look forward to getting some good criticism and opinions on this post, and I really welcome hearing from proponents of the ban.  Nevertheless, I think the moratorium on liquor licenses is a terrible idea.  Destroying competition and future business opportunities is the LAST thing any Michigan city should be doing right now.  New bars, restaurants, hotels, bowling alley: they all help in several ways:

  1. creating “buzz” in the local media to drive visitors,
  2. contributing to the tax base, and
  3. providing jobs (!!!)

Most importantly, they help establish Royal Oak’s claim as a truly walkable, thriving, diverse, modern community.  Any moratorium on liquor licenses will destroy competition.  If you want to help Berkley or Ferndale establish their claims as the top entertainment destinations in Metro Detroit, this is the best way to go about it.  There are enough empty storefronts already in the Royal without anyone’s help.

What good comes from a 2-year ban, anyway? And what’s next? A town-enforced vow of sobriety?  Will young Royal Oak denizens now spend Saturday nights playing Yahtzee or sitting in on knitting circles?  Nah.  If Royal Oak continues in this vein, they’ll just move out. I can’t imagine any hip, booming district or neighborhood in San Francisco or Portland, Austin or NYC pulling this kind of stunt.

I read the NYT and the NYer pretty regularly–seems like a new gastropub or sustainable eatery opens just in Williamsburg every week.  That’s what makes Brooklyn the most exciting new destination in North America for food and drinks, as well as a great community for raising a family.  Why we would do exactly the opposite of what every progressive city in the country advocates is beyond me.

A final note: I am not necessarily advocating for the Emagine development (or sayin’ we should try to be exactly like NYC).  I think the Main Art should be respected and protected–after all, it’s anchored the downtown strip for years.  I am wondering whether the magician developers of Emagine will now conjure up a new parking garage to avoid a horrendous parking and traffic problem downtown.  But I think we elect our local representatives to make these decisions on a case-by-case basis.  You don’t like the Emagine development?  Great.  Protest it. But destroying every potential business venture downtown for the sake of one defeat, truly, seems like cutting off your entire head to spite your face.

What’s scarier than Halloween?  A downtown that looks like this:

Image courtesy of Friends of Downtown Royal Oak

Image courtesy of Friends of Downtown Royal Oak

This article brought to you by the good folks at Urbane Hotels Royal Oak Michigan, Urbane Hotels Southfield Michigan, Urbane Hotels Troy Michigan, and Urbane Hotels Detroit Michigan.

  • http://emaginero.com/ Royal Oak

    I agree with this post all the way. I am a Troy resident, but frequent Royal Oak very much. Shopping, eating and night life are all the reasons why people go there. Banning the growth of a city known for being hip and ever changing is, sorry, just dumb. With new restaurants, bars and entertainment, Royal Oak give the appeal that every resident and visitor should love.

    As far as the Emagine deal. I am all for it, its another great reason to go to Royal Oak. Why not do a dinner and a movie, seeing the latest and greatest film. Royal Oak Main is a great theater, but shows independent films, one of the appeals about it. There is nothing is Royal Oak like this. I came across a website that tell the real facts about what the deal brings. Sorry “Protect Royal Oak” but your facts are a little off. I am glad that I read on this blog some real facts and this website give you some more. If a site is going to bash someone, at least now you can hear both sides of the story.

    http://emaginero.com/

    Thanks for a great post.

  • http://urbaneapts.com/ Ashley

    A few comments I should post to clear up my own writing…

    Royal Oak has, according to The Daily Tribune, some of the most difficult license transfer processes in Metro Detroit.

    “Nevertheless, If it passes, transfers of liquor licenses from outside the city would not be allowed for a period of two years. License transfers from one business to another within Royal Oak would still be allowed.”

    I’ve talked to several Royal Oak residents about this, and several of them have mentioned that Royal Oak bar owners will sell liquor licenses for hugely inflated prices if the ban passes. Therefore, a ban on transfer liquor licenses will, ultimately, rule out all but the deepest pockets from acquiring a liquor license. I call it an out and out ban, but that’s an error. :)

    Here’s one more important quote from the Trib:

    “Rasor said the city can boost its coffers through careful development even if it means approving liquor license transfers.
    He would have supported a transfer for Main Street Pub, 526 Main St.
    “That space has been vacant for 10 years — ever since it was built,” Rasor said. “They were willing to give the city $500,000 over three years to defray any costs for more police.”
    Sources:
    http://www.dailytribune.com/articles/2009/10/26/news/doc4ae588fe657b9552152796.txt
    http://www.candgnews.com/Homepage-Articles/2009/10-14-09/Royal-Oak-liquor-license.asp

  • nomo

    Thanks for getting the discussion rolling. This proposal is all about the owners of Mr. B’s keeping competing bars and restaurants out of Royal Oak. Mr. B’s have paid good money to several City Commissioners and are trying to elect another one, Andrew Androff. Check out his campaign finance report out the Oakland County Clerk’s website. His single largest contributor, besides the $4k he has loaned himself, is the nearly $3k he took in from the owners of Mr. B’s.

    This proposal stinks from top to bottom. Semchena, Andrejak, Drinkwine, former Commissioner Miller, and now Androff are trying run Royal Oak like Monica Conyers and Kwame Kilpatrick ran Detroit.

    Vote no on this proposal and hold these elected officials accountable.

  • LDub

    Thank you for writing this blog.

    It is ludicrous to think that the city I live in would turn away potential new tax revenue, especially since my home value has dropped by 30% from the time my husband and I purchased it just 6 years ago.

    Turning down new businesses not only turns away new revenue, it also does not allow for NEW JOBS! Again, where the heck is the logic in this during a recession?

    I guess when you are being paid off by current bar owners, no logic is needed. I’m so disgusted by the bribery going on. Like Nomo said, are we going to become the next Detroit? Very, very sad thought.

    The other disturbing action surrounding this ballot initiative is the fear mongering going on with the older population living in Royal Oak. There is no correlation between the number of bars and the level of crime in Royal Oak. In fact, we have more bars than surrounding communities yet even lower crime rates! And duh – taxes generated by bars and restaurants help pay for even more police! AND, did you know, Royal Oak had three beat cops just for downtown? I’m not surprised, because I feel incredibly safe in my home town.

    I originally moved here for the lively downtown and I don’t want it to go away. It makes me sick to see so many vacant store fronts.

    Please Royal Oak residents, VOTE NO ON THE MORATORIUM!

  • http://rmeray.com Ryan Meray

    Dear Royal Oak:

    Here in Ferndale, we love development, enterprising business owners, and new investments and additions to the city. So go ahead, pass that ban. We’ll be happy to take your prospects and offer them a home where they’ll be appreciated.

  • http://www.twitter.com/matthewdibble Matthew Dibble

    Thanks for the welcoming offer Ryan, my wife and I just might take you up on it.

    We’re thinking about the future and having a family and thought of what Royal Oak has become is just plain out boring to us. There’s no doubt that there is shady activity going on, we’ve known that for months… but when I think of our options for food and drink it comes down to Bastone, Town Pump, or the Cantina. After that I get very bored at the thought of all of the chains that litter the strip.
    And Mr. B’s? Forget it. I was over that place the week after I moved to RO.

    We’re now looking into Ferndale, Berkley and Detroit, where they WANT young, fun couples moving in.

  • http://www.midwestguest.com DominiqueKing

    It’s interesting to hear the rhetoric put forth by Semchena and other moratorium supporters. Tim said it reminded him of the “language of Prohibition” (history major, what can I say?)…I mean, who uses the word “saloon” these days? We won’t even get into the faulty math we spotted in the pro-moratorium lit.

    My guess is that the moratorium supporters have mailed the heck out of the seniors, and are otherwise lobbying heavily among the folks that generally vote absentee. ballots. That population often carries the day in low-turn-out local races here.
    Add to that a tendency for it being more difficult to get a “no” vote on something (especially something like this where voting “yes” pretty much means “no”), and the question of whether a campaign relying heavily on online tools can finally gain some traction in town and get the younger residents out to the polls to V-O-T-E…I wouldn’t be surprised if the moratorium folks win this round.

    I’m not a big bar person, but I’m voting “no” on the moratorium. We elect city commissioners and the mayor, and I expect them to do their job and consider each proposal for liquor licenses on its own merits…not fall back on a knee-jerk moratorium measure that might backfire on the city by costing us some really decent project that Ferndale, Clawson, or any number of our other neighbors will be more than happy to host.

    Besides…go back and look at the original discussion here when the moratorium folks first started to gather signatures. http://www.theurbanelife.com/?p=2203 Doesn’t leave much doubt in my mind as to who is really behind this moratorium.

  • Brandon

    Matt — congrats on the wedding! Don’t give up on Royal Oak yet. There are other good restaurants and non-chains (Pronto!, for example — not a chain, not great service, but a fun place usually), the Beirut place on the corner of 11/Main, the vegetarian restaurant on 4th st near the CVS, the new crepe place on Lafayette, What Crepe?, Little Tree, Oak City Grille, and my favorite, D’Amatos.

    Ferndale is great, and seems much less conservative, but R.O. still has a lot to offer, despite it’s bizarre city leadership.

  • Brandon

    Agree whole-heartedly with Dominique. A moratorium makes absolutely no sense is being lazy. Evaluate each proposal as it comes before the city and make a decision on the merits. Do you really want a reputation for being an anti-fun, anti-resident, anti-new business city?

  • Brandon

    Sorry for the three-peat — just tried to leave a comment at the Protect Royal Oak website. Apparently they vet which comments they’ll allow up. So, I’m guessing my comment disagreeing with their point of view won’t make it up. Glad we have this forum for debate here!

  • http://www.twitter.com/matthewdibble Matthew Dibble

    Hey Brandon,
    Thanks for the congrats.
    I’ve been living in Royal Oak for 9 years now… I’ve been to every restaurant you name, recently, and at one point frequented many of them.
    Beirut Palace is decent I guess (I prefer La Feast), Inn Season Cafe is a cool restaurant w/ great food and I love what they’re doing for vegetarian, local and raw food… but notice I said “food and drinks.” None of those 3 serve alcohol and when Katie and I go out we like to have a couple of cocktails.
    As for the others, I’m not a big fan of any of them. Although the atmosphere is a bit fun, Pronto’s food is not very good. Little Tree is probably closest on my list, but you can get much better sushi in many other places in metro Detroit. I have not yet tried What Crepe but I don’t think they serve alcohol either… I could be wrong.
    The bottom line is Royal Oak is ALREADY growing bland and is now threatening to block out the possibility of any new competition…. Yay. Please let me continue to pay overinflated tax prices for subpar services and a City Commission that can’t get out of its own way.

  • http://urbaneapts.com/ Ashley

    Thanks for all the great comments, guys and gals! Brandon, I think your points are right on the money. What I’m afraid about is, if liquor licenses get so picky and pricy, Royal Oak will be known as just Birmingham Jr. Only upscale chains and owners with huge pockets would be able to build here and afford a liquor license. That means small independent businesses would never have it equally–without liquor licenses, they’d just struggle to survive. My personal philosophy says Royal Oak will be more vibrant, diverse, and interesting when we start protecting the little business owner, not the corporate chain.
    Matt Dibble, having lived in Detroit for the last 5 years, I always encourage everyone to get down there! It’s totally an adventure. But…as far as neighborhoods go, you’ll be driving around just as much in Detroit as you do up here. The distance between Royal Oak, Berkley, Ferndale, and Birmingham is pretty comparable to the distance between the Detroit neighborhoods I frequented most–Midtown (where I lived), downtown, East Jefferson, Corktown, Southwest Detroit, New Center, and East English Village.

  • http://www.twitter.com/matthewdibble Matthew Dibble

    But what’s the value of a city that actually wants its residents to be happy and enjoy living there? Royal Oak doesn’t.

  • http://www.midwestguest.com DominiqueKing

    This site doesn’t like comments with more than one link in them…so I’ll try this in two parts :)

    Matt-Inn Season’s lack of a liquor license has been a sore spot with more than a few folks around town.

    I remembered them asking for a liquor license about a decade ago…I looked it up…it was eight years ago :)

    Inn Season initially requested a Class C Liquor License from the city in fall of 2001. There was a -lot- of discussion. Inn Season revised their request to ask for a Tavern License (Class C is full bar, Tavern is beer and wine). The owner at the time stated he’d like to serve organic beer and wine with meals. He had a lot of support in the community, but the city turned him down.

    If you truly want to torture yourself by reading the minutes of the hearing before the city’s Liquor Control Committee http://www.ci.royal-oak.mi.us/portal/sites/default/files/meetings/Liquor%20Control%20Committee/2001/ph20010919.pdf …..

  • http://www.midwestguest.com DominiqueKing

    Matt…here’s part 2 of my answer to you

    Read the minutes of the full commission meeting where they turned Inn Season down http://www.ci.royal-oak.mi.us/portal/sites/default/files/meetings/City%20Commission/2001/101501cc.html , knock yourself out.

    Part of the argument at that time was that giving Inn Season a tavern license wasn’t going to significantly benefit the city because that wouldn’t represent “any significant new development, renovation or restoration”. I think some folks were still dreaming of a hotel at I-696 and Woodward…but don’t get me started on that one!

    The aftermath included an ownership change at Inn Season…

    I thought they should have given them the darn Tavern license in 2001.

  • Lifelong RO Resident

    I want to participate in this conversation so much — but I cannot read the blue-on-black without my eyes hurting :-( Definitely *against* the moratorium though.

  • http://urbaneapts.com/ Eric Brown

    Wow, A great conversation going here, thank you to all. We appreciate everyone’s opinion.

    I, and our company, Urbane Apartments are pro development. We support it, and welcome all of the inevitable problems that need to be solved with growth. To stifle growth seems silly. To not recognize Royal Oak as one of the ONLY places in SE MI that offers any ray of light for a vibrant economic climate seems more silly,

    To Ryan’s point we just finished our first development in Ferndale, and while there were challenges, as there are with all real estate deals, the city, and the folks running the city collectively helped us solve the problems. We Love Ferndale.

    Ferndale will clearly overtake Royal Oak in short order, and the elected leaders of our city will stand in bewilderment wondering what happened, one silly decision at a time.

  • http://rmeray.com Ryan Meray

    Eric, I can’t tell ya how proud of the city that makes me. I’m more of a cheerleader for Ferndale than I am the waterboy, let alone the quarterback. It’s just the place I live and work. But I love those town, I love the people in it, and I love where it’s going. Most of all, I love hearing from people coming into the city to do business that it’s an equally inviting place for them to work within.

    Ferndale is truly lucky to have people like you investing in it, and I hope your positive experience will spread so more people realize that Ferndale could be the ideal home for their enterprises as well.

  • http://www.twitter.com/matthewdibble Matthew Dibble

    Haha… NO THANKS Dominique! Those links look brutal! But I agree with you that I don’t see a problem w/ a responsible place like Inn Season serving beer and wine that accompanies their menu. They close at 9pm for crying out loud.

    In truth, I consider myself a RO resident (for now) but I spend so much time in Ferndale and Berkley and a bit of Clawson, that I consider those my secondary cities.

    It just drives me nuts that the city I pay (an exorbitant amount of) taxes in and keep a very nice house in makes these decisions for their own benefit.

    One final note from me on this subject, I went to a tile shop (I won’t say which one) to get some tile for my bathroom and the man working there (I won’t say his name) told me that he has worked on the city commission for 3 different cities… Rochester, Royal Oak and…. I can’t remember the third… and he said that there is corruption in all of them but Royal Oak takes greed and corruption to an entirely new level. He said if people “knew what Royal Oak leaders were doing w/ their money and their decisions, there would be rioting in the streets.”

  • Colleen Frey

    Just wanted to add to this discussion. I am 49 and my husband is 56. We’ve lived in Royal Oak for over 20 years and this summer actually moved closer to downtown Royal Oak. We love this city and will be voting no on this ban. We live 4 blocks from Main Street and the reports of excessive noise and music are totally exaggerated. How stupid can you be as to want to turn down new business in this economy?

    Ashley, as you pointed out, it doesn’t just bring in people to drink or go to restaurants. Our downtown has fewer vacancies than most cities and I believe that it is because when people come here to eat or drink, they also visit the retail stores.

    And don’t get me started on wanting to sell off park land to raise money…

  • http://www.examiner.com Kim

    Hi Urbane people!

    I, clearly, wholeheartedly agree. The thing that kills me the most about this proposal is that voting no still likely won’t bring in more bars. They are opposing Bar Louie for heavens sake!

    And the corruption is outrageous. Can anyone clarify on a rumor I heard? Did Mr. B’s really get approval for a dance permit?

  • http://www.midwestguest.com DominiqueKing
  • http://www.examiner.com Kim

    Thanks Dominique . . .

    to me this shows the further corruption of the pro-moratorium movement. Let’s protect the people from “Mega-Bars” but give RO’s original “Mega-Bar” a dance permit . . .

    Althought the whole Footloose Dance Permit is a whole other bllog entirely!

    Vote no today peeps. . . . the moratorium only gives commissioners a free pass to not do the job we elect and pay them to do.

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